Hey all, this is a unique request! I see a lot of forums around, some of which do not have answers and I think there is a strong community out there and we can help make the Appgyver teams life a bit easier. I think getting more invovled is a start, so I wanted to ask if pepople out there think it would be a cool idea to create an app as a group?
Yes this would be difficult, but since we have people from many different backgrounds with different abilities, it could be fun. My thought was if we could get a decent size group of people we could brainstorm a problem and a solution together. Then we could have someone start to build the app and pass the Appgyver file back and forth so each member could import, make their contributions, and pass on to the next person. I know there isnāt a contribution or shared document like with Google docs or Figma, but I think with the right forum/communication/group we could pass the files back-and-forth and contribute together.
Hey, good initiative. I am not 100% sure what would be a good medium for this, but surely an app can do that as well. You can count on me for sure to try my best to help people out there.
One very important thing is to really be able to distinguish the requests that are simply people who donāt read any of the documentation and just try to skip the āhard partā of learning.
Just ping me with any questions and letās make this Community thrive again (similar to what SAP is doing on the Build Apps community).
Great initiative.
Iāve identified a problem in this community (many clueless users - like me in the beginning - asking the same questions again and again, maybe because the doc is too technical for us non tech people?) and thought of a solution.
But Iāve been hesitant as Iāve been busy, I was not seeing myself work hard alone for free for the good of the community and I have been disappointed by SAP as of late to be honest.
Iāve even discussed this idea internally with SAP in December as it involves the Legal department.
In a nutshell, I thought of an AI assisted āchatbotā that has learned and understood the entire content of this forum and the documentation. To make it really helpful, prompts must be auto-suggested. Prompts design is the #1 AI pain point right now.
Last month, a similar product was released for Bubble: Bubble Buddy I Solve Bubble Issues I Goodspeed
If a few good souls in the community are involved and we brainstorm well, we can do better than that and I know SAP Build App is totally capable, provided it remains stable.
@Fred_Kuzyk and @Mihaly_Toth thanks for replying! I like Freds idea (i thiught of something much less techncial myself as i used chatgpt to help me with appgyver questions and it gave me outdated information).
I think thatās a great idea and it could be very valuable. I just donāt know how we would begin getting the information together to catalog it.
GPT-4 + plugin bundle is connected to the internet. This would be quite helpful for reading the entire forum.
For cataloging the documentation, I feel we should manually sort the content and keep only whatās good. Then shall we save that content in a properly indexed document in firebase? Or we ask GPT to read the online document pages which we selected?
I think we could do that. I honestly love this idea, but I am curious how many people we think may use it? I get a bit nervous at times as I see the forum activity is pretty low and I dont know how to reach people here.
Also, one other idea came to my mind. Reading through the SAP Community and this new āChallengeā they have during April. We could be having challenges here as well. The downside of these challenges here is that I struggle to come up with some proper motivation or ābadgeā or anything here.
I mean, Iād be glad to prepare and validate some entries, but couldnāt devote all my time to it for sure.
I think that could be fun, but agree with the motivation part. Im sure we could find a way to motivate people with some form of an incentive. What types of challenges did you have in mind, and do you think we could work with Appgyver to get a forum topic for this?
100% sure that we could get at least a āpinnedā forum topic.
Well, we could basically just copy their SAP challenges, but also some other ideas.
Lining out some problems and see different solutions for those. For example a āchat componentā or a ārest api endpoint to sendgridā that can be shared to the data resources marketplace. Some of these can be also good topics for youtube tutorials, keep grinding your channel, youāre doing a great job!
Thanks for keeping up the conversation.
No worries about the number of users. If the tool is useful/helpful, users will embrace it.
We can always ask the staff to make a general āAppGyverā announcement for everyone to see it.
All this provided the tool is not commercial, since we donāt have ownership of the forumās content.
Iām building the last complexe leg of an ambitious project, namely a payment solution enabled by an e-wallet and Iād welcome a little break from it and work on another fun, side project.
I know Mihaly timezone, whatās yours, in America?
Love the idea but I donāt see people having time for this and engaging in this forum. It would work in a more dynamic community.
I personally donāt have another extra time for a āfun challengeā. But hey feel free to run it. I know I canāt participate.
Iāve subscribed to GPT-4 and joined the waitlist for accessing chatGPT-4 plugins.
Weāre aiming for the browser plugin.
Iāll share my API token to you both in a DM when plugin access is unlocked.
Meanwhile maybe we can start building a basic input / output page which we will upgrade with more advanced Curl request body. I believe we must run the GPT4 API server side for obv security reasons.
Iām thinking of Xano (since Iām familiar with it), unless you guys propose a better alternative?
I havent used xano perosnally so you will need to bare with me on the learning curve. So is the plan to use gpt to auto search a few preselected urls and return the best advice/article for the users query?
GPT could crawl through the topics that are tagged as āsolvedā or as ācommunity guideā.
The format of the response is up to usā¦ or the user. It could be bullet points or a summary or the full post of interest. , etcā¦along with the url of the source.
Not heavily, but enough to have created a working JS function that fully replaces a Firestore cloud function.
And enough to be able to point you to the right literature about prompt engineering without risk of wasting time. Check DM.
Ola Pedro,
Obrigado for the proposal. Let me revert to you over the weekend. Weāve brainstormed with the initial members but welcome any idea and brainpower that add value to this bona fide community project.
